Posts by Doug Mason

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Pecking Order in the Millennium

by Cold Steel in

okay, the smoke has cleared.

everyone's dead who had it coming and the remainder find that their bodies have been changed.

no more disease, no more aging, no more human weaknesses and the weather is perfect.

Doug Mason

Explain how the weather will be "perfect" each day. Will the axis of the earth relative to its spin be changed? Would this ensure perfect weather from north pole to south pole?

Will there be no need for rain?

I gather that JWs will be busy educating all the people as they are resurrected from death in order to give them the chance to hear their message. Given the number of people who throughout all the ages have not had the privilege of listening to CTR and his descendants, how many millions will be raised each year (if there are "years"), for how many years, and how will JWs manage to reach each one of them? When will God destroy the people who decide to reject the JWs message during the millennium? Who will make the decision?

Electricity would be a danger, especially for the people who lived before the 20th century. No computers, no MacDonalds or KFC, no children, everyone aged 21. Everyone a vegan, including all the beasts in the waters.

Give me a break.

Doug

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Who wants to live forever?

by Doug Mason in

what will living be like after 5 billion years?.

doug.

Doug Mason

I want to thank every one of you for sharing your innermost thoughts. I look forward to reading more; this question affects our attitdude to our everyday life. Yes, I am old: 73. I do not want to give my own personal view at this stage, since I do not want to make it appear as if I am winding up the discussion.

I wonder what the effect was of seeing the title, of thinking about your response, and of reading what others told you about themselves. Not in an argumentive way, but with respect.

Doug

53

Who wants to live forever?

by Doug Mason in

what will living be like after 5 billion years?.

doug.

Doug Mason

What will living be like after 5 billion years?

Doug

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Preterism vs The Rapture??

by DATA-DOG in

in the preterist view, all scripture is fulfilled.

when jesus said to his disciples, " this generation ", he meant it.

they would not pass away until they saw the destruction of jerusalem.

Doug Mason

As 1 Thess 4 shows, Paul expected the Coming to take place during his own lifetime. The Thessalonians were concerned that Paul had taught them to prepare for the imminent Coming, and they had written to him that some of those who had received that message had since died, which they could not understand. (When decades after, Paul's expectations were not fulfilled, another writer modified his epectations; we now call that pseudonymous writing 2 Thessalonians).

The people who wrote of "this generation" in their Gospel similarly expected the imminent Coming.

Their expectations have been repeated throughout subsequent generations and no doubt will continue to do so for the forseeable future. Learn the lesson that history teaches. (Of course, the story does help some people cope with the pressures and problems of life.)

Doug

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1927-1946 Messengers Combined!

by Atlantis in

i don't remember who requested this file, but anyway here it is..1927-1946 messengers combined.

click the green download button http://www.fileflyer.com/view/0qrgibm..atlantis

Doug Mason

A few historically interesting references from this compilation.

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Bible Students the world over expected that with the expiration of the Times of the Gentiles, in 1914, God's kingdom would begin to exercise its authority over the nations of earth. And it was established, but in a different way from what we thought. The Devil was removed from his spiritual throne of rulership in heaven, from which position he had ruled the earth, as "the god of this world". (August 6, 1928, page 7)

We joyfully embrace and take the name which the mouth of the Lord God has named, and we desire to be known as and called by the name, to wit, Jehovah's witnesses.—Isa. 43:10-12; 62:2; Rev. 12:17. (July 28, 1931, page 3)

Historical sketch of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (August 12, 1946 pages 8-10)

N. H. Knorr, convention servant, introduced a real surprise, a new portable phonograph designed for doorstep witnessing and made to play in a vertical position. It had a number of new features. (September 1940, page 15)

"AWAKE" The New Magazine (August 9, 1946, page 3)

F. W. Franz conducting the convention orchestra. (August 11, 1946 page 2)

Photo of a young F. W. Franz. (July 22, 1927, page 3)

The Scriptural Beliefs of Jehovah's witnesses. (August 12, 1946, page 17)

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"I would have made a good evangelist"

by Doug Mason in

apologies for the size of this strip.

lack of experience on my part.. .

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Doug Mason

Apologies for the size of this strip. Lack of experience on my part.

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Can it be delayed until 1914?

by Doug Mason in

under the heading of "can it be delayed until 1914?

" in zion's watch tower of july 15, 1894, russell advised his readers that the trouble they were experiencing was taking place exactly as he had anticipated 17 years earlier.. russell's readers were concerned that, given the troubles they were experiencing, matters could not hold out until 1914.. he comforted them with the information that 1914 was not the date for the beginning of the time of trouble, but for its end.. the full text and a scan of that page from the watch tower is available at:.

http://www.jwstudies.com/watchtower_1894_07_15_page_226.pdf .

Doug Mason

Dear Old Hippie,

Not a problem, my friend.

My eye was firmly fixed on any lurkers who might have misconstrued our repartee.

It is my practise to make the most of every opportunity to pass messages on to them, and you provided me with a great opportunity.

Thank you for enabling our joint message to be put to them.

(Ancient) Doug

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Can it be delayed until 1914?

by Doug Mason in

under the heading of "can it be delayed until 1914?

" in zion's watch tower of july 15, 1894, russell advised his readers that the trouble they were experiencing was taking place exactly as he had anticipated 17 years earlier.. russell's readers were concerned that, given the troubles they were experiencing, matters could not hold out until 1914.. he comforted them with the information that 1914 was not the date for the beginning of the time of trouble, but for its end.. the full text and a scan of that page from the watch tower is available at:.

http://www.jwstudies.com/watchtower_1894_07_15_page_226.pdf .

Doug Mason

I am a liar because I provide a direct quote from Russell? I can see that you are being facetious, that you are actually calling CTR a liar.

Today's historians see a significance with the Great War. Today's WTS copies these secular sources because it suits their reinterpretation of 1914.

CTR expected 1914 would see the end of man's rule, with the outbreak of peace under the Zionists.

Have a alook at: http://www.jwstudies.com/Changed_MD_and_SS_words.pdf

Doug

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We the rank and file are prophets

by Crazyguy in

i have the elders coming to my home soon and need help finding a watchtower where thay stated that the regular publishers were also prophets, i think it came out about 2007 i think but not sure..

Doug Mason

crazyguy,

It is my view that one strong reason JWs "hang in" is they fear the impact of shunning. These elders are no different, each has the same fear - plus this is the only place they can exert authority.

The Elder operates with the knowledge that the WT hierarchy is constantly monitoring them.

For an Elder to report back that they found no problem from a dissident would put that Elder into an invidious position. Never expect balanced impartiality - the Elder's self-interest is paramount.

Doug

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Is their a table/list comparing what the WT & Awake magazines print that differs from their bound volumes ?

by smiddy in

i have seen quotations from time to time that says the wt & awake magazines have been changed when the bound volumes come out , has anybody ever been able to list these changes ?

and make a comparison .?

to me this is quite deceptive , like speaking out of both sides of your mouth .if you pick them up on one thing then they quote something different , and have the printed page to prove it.surely they need to be nailed down on this.. smiddy.

Doug Mason

I have listed changes between "Millennial Dawn"/"Studies in the Scriptures" at:

http://www.jwstudies.com/Changed_MD_and_SS_words.pdf

CTR used the title "Millennial Dawn" because he taught that the Millennium had already dawned (started) in the 1870s. He titled his magazine: "Zion's Watch Tower [future peace in 1914 under the Zionists] and Herald of Christ's Presence [past Parousia in 1874]".

Imagine what would happen to a JW if they started preaching CTR's message. The GB would have that JW - and CTR - booted out pronto.

Doug